FIV abroad

Informatii si discutii despre proceduri de fertilizare in vitro si inseminare artificiala, despre medici si tratamente, in Romania & abroad.
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Re: FIV abroad

Post by CarmenPH » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:36 pm

dana77 wrote:HSG l-am facut in Cluj, nu a fost nevoie de anestezie si nu am simtit absolut nimic. A fost undeva la 400 de lei. HS am gasit la Mures cu 600 lei (nu stiu daca nu se mai adauga ceva pentru anestezie, la HS am inteles ca e de musai anestezia). Eu nu stiu daca sa fac deocamdata HS. Am rescris in Ungaria sa intreb daca trebuie toate 3 sau una e suficient si raspunsul nu m-a lamurit total ('rezultatul de la HSG va fi acceptat' spunea). Am presupus atunci ca ar fi suficient. :-S Ginecoloaga mea din tara mi-a spus la fel ca ar fi suficient. Tie cine ti-a spus ca trebuie ambele obligatoriu? Dr. Kovacs?
Eu in 30 mai am programarea. Daca mergi inainte astept sa-mi spui cum a fost. Multa bafta!
Am emotii. :)


Buna Dana.
Eu astazi am facut HSG - la mine a fost foarte dureros avand ambele trompe aproape inexistente radiologic, fara aderente dar obstructionate ,astfel ca nu am reusit fara anestezie pentru ca a fost extrem de dureros. Pana la urma a fost totul in regula, S-a reusit desfundarea lor , asa ca acum sunt ambele trompe permeabile. In total am platit 450 ron .

Mie dr din Ro mi-a zis ca ar trebui facute si HSG si HS - pentru ca prima iti da informatii despre trompe daca sunt sau nu permeabile iar HS iti examineaza cavitatea uterina, se vad polipi, friboane, orice este pe mucoasa uterina si ar putea impiedica implantarea.
Dar si mie dr Kovacs mi a zis ca HSG e importanta , restul pot fi facute si acolo daca este neaparat nevoie.
Eu am programare la inceputul lunii mai asa ca o sa te tin la curent cum decurge consultatia si care este urmatorul pas.

Mult succes !
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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Cosiana » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:57 pm

Buna Ingrid,
Asa cum tocmai am scris astazi, noi ne pregatim pentru ACIBADEM - DR TAYFUN, vom merge acolo la inceputul lunii mai.

Inca nu stim la cat ne va duce totul, pentru ca nu stim inca cat ne vor costa medicamentele.
Dar, cazare pentru 2 saptamani: app 850 eur + procedura FIV 2,800 EUR (din care 10% reducere daca platesti cu un card facut la Garanti, BCR sau CEC, noi tocmai ce ne-am facut cardurile) + transport (noi am optat pentru masina personala) app 200 eur (daca vreti cu avionul aveti optiuni, va poate costa in jur de 140 eur dus-intors pe amandoi cu o companie PEGASUS, care aterizeaza chiar in partea asiatica sau daca mergeti pe ATATURK va costa in jur de 170 eur/pers) + tratamentul/medicamentele care pot fi in jur de 1000 eur.

Avand in vedere ca eu nu mi-am facut nici HSG si nici histeroscopie, daca doctoral va considera necesar, e posibil sa le fac acolo, dar asta in fct de costuri.

Deci, daca tragem linie, ajungem undeva la 4,500 eur - 5,000 eur.

Bafta!
Eu 39, el 36, el diagnosticat cu OATS severa in 2013.
FIV 1 - nereusit, Columna Bucuresti, au fost transferati 2 blasto, calitate A;
FIV 2 - ne pregatim sa mergem la ACIBADEM Istanbul la inceputul lunii mai - REUSIT;
Aprilie 2016, AMH : 4,41
ET 16.05.2016: 3 embrioni de z3, calitate 1;
BetaHCG 26.05.2016 z10 de la ET este 81.33;BetaHCG 28.05.2016 z12 de la ET este 123.BetaHCG 30.05.2016 z14 de la ET este 172.72; BetaHCG 01.06.2016 z16 de la ET este 355.59; BetaHCG 03.06.2016 z18 de la ET este 819.33;
SOE 6 sapt, avort medicamentos
FIV 3 Szeged oct-noe 2016 -o experienta groaznica, dr Zadori, neprofesionalism total; am ovulat inainte de punctie;
FIV 4 VIENA feb- martie 2017 - REUSIT [premom]; fericita mamica de Ema Maria Olivia; sotul a facut TESE; clexane toata sarcina
FIV 5 VIENA/Tulln ian 2019 - 11 ovo, 8 mature, 2 fertilizate, 2 blasto, z5, unul mai slab, unul mai bun, transferati amandoi in 28 ian, crunta asteptare; sotul a facut TESE - NEREUSIT

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by carla33 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:30 am

Bafta multa cosiana. Tu esti acum reperul meu :D . Sa se lase cu ochisori. Urmeaza sa ma duc si eu la un control dar mai prin toamna. Sa ne tii la curent cu ce faci acolo. Sunt sigura ca va fi bine :YMPARTY:

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Cosiana » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:06 pm

Carla, mci mult pentru incurajari, o sa incerc sa postez fiecare pas, sa va tin la curent cu tot. Stiu cat de importanta e orice informatie, chiar daca nu pare asa.
Imi pare bine sa vad ca te ai repliat, merita efortul, ai sa vezi.
Asa ma incurajez si eu, pe mine insami! Stiu cat de greu e esecul si cat de firava e speranta, dar vom reusi!
Bafta la toate!!
Inca putin si vom fi [premom]
Eu 39, el 36, el diagnosticat cu OATS severa in 2013.
FIV 1 - nereusit, Columna Bucuresti, au fost transferati 2 blasto, calitate A;
FIV 2 - ne pregatim sa mergem la ACIBADEM Istanbul la inceputul lunii mai - REUSIT;
Aprilie 2016, AMH : 4,41
ET 16.05.2016: 3 embrioni de z3, calitate 1;
BetaHCG 26.05.2016 z10 de la ET este 81.33;BetaHCG 28.05.2016 z12 de la ET este 123.BetaHCG 30.05.2016 z14 de la ET este 172.72; BetaHCG 01.06.2016 z16 de la ET este 355.59; BetaHCG 03.06.2016 z18 de la ET este 819.33;
SOE 6 sapt, avort medicamentos
FIV 3 Szeged oct-noe 2016 -o experienta groaznica, dr Zadori, neprofesionalism total; am ovulat inainte de punctie;
FIV 4 VIENA feb- martie 2017 - REUSIT [premom]; fericita mamica de Ema Maria Olivia; sotul a facut TESE; clexane toata sarcina
FIV 5 VIENA/Tulln ian 2019 - 11 ovo, 8 mature, 2 fertilizate, 2 blasto, z5, unul mai slab, unul mai bun, transferati amandoi in 28 ian, crunta asteptare; sotul a facut TESE - NEREUSIT

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Hurculeacclaudia » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:18 am

Buna fetelor sunt noua pe forum si a-și dori sa va adresez o întrebare ,știe cineva traducătoare la Kaali Budapesta am o programare la dr Kovacs si nu găsesc pe nimeni care sa îmi traducă . Va rog!!!

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Lucy » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:29 pm

Buna, sunt noua pe acest site si am citit mult despre intamplarile voastre. Am trait cu voi fetelor fiecare sentiment si ma bucur ca am fost si eu acceptata printre voi.
Si eu trec prin momente pline de stres avand in urma 3 Fiv si 7 embriotransfer si panain prezent nu a iesit un test pozitiv.
Chiar in prezent sunt in a 6 zi dupa transfer , mai am pana pe 3 mai sa aflu daca vine bebe sau nu.
Va dati seama sunt sub stres total. Nu am nici un simptom doar ca ma doare rau burta ca si la CM si spatele. In rest nimic. Voi care ati reusit ati avut simptome ceva? Mult succes va urez la toate.

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Cosiana » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:16 pm

Lucy, bine ai venit!
Unde ai facut FIV?

Stii, fetele de pe FIV ROMANIA au descris starea asta de asteptare printr un singur cuvant: PARANOIA ;)
Atat ne "pandim" si cautam semne pana dam in paranoia.
Semnele tale pot fi semne de sarcina, dar mai ai rabdare putin si o sa vina si confirmarea. Pana atunci, incearca sa nu te mai gandesti, stiu ca e greu, si va veni si confirmarea sub forma a doua liniute.

Bafta!!!!
Eu 39, el 36, el diagnosticat cu OATS severa in 2013.
FIV 1 - nereusit, Columna Bucuresti, au fost transferati 2 blasto, calitate A;
FIV 2 - ne pregatim sa mergem la ACIBADEM Istanbul la inceputul lunii mai - REUSIT;
Aprilie 2016, AMH : 4,41
ET 16.05.2016: 3 embrioni de z3, calitate 1;
BetaHCG 26.05.2016 z10 de la ET este 81.33;BetaHCG 28.05.2016 z12 de la ET este 123.BetaHCG 30.05.2016 z14 de la ET este 172.72; BetaHCG 01.06.2016 z16 de la ET este 355.59; BetaHCG 03.06.2016 z18 de la ET este 819.33;
SOE 6 sapt, avort medicamentos
FIV 3 Szeged oct-noe 2016 -o experienta groaznica, dr Zadori, neprofesionalism total; am ovulat inainte de punctie;
FIV 4 VIENA feb- martie 2017 - REUSIT [premom]; fericita mamica de Ema Maria Olivia; sotul a facut TESE; clexane toata sarcina
FIV 5 VIENA/Tulln ian 2019 - 11 ovo, 8 mature, 2 fertilizate, 2 blasto, z5, unul mai slab, unul mai bun, transferati amandoi in 28 ian, crunta asteptare; sotul a facut TESE - NEREUSIT

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Lucy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:06 pm

Sper sa fie un raspuns al asteptarilor mele. Dupa patru sarcini extrauterine 3 fiv si 7embrio transfer blast.asteptarea mea e ..... . Multumesc pt incurajare si sa dea Dumnezeu la toate femeile care trec prin asta sa se bucure de bebe.
Bafta si tie!!!

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Lucy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:55 pm

Apropo traiesc in germania si la putini km este o clinica Tagesklinik se numeste si este in Oldenburg nordul Germaniei.
Numai cu aceasta clinica am colaborat.
Financiar este mult mai ok. Ne sustine statul cu o parte si casa de asigurari jumatate
Si e destul de echipata,sunt doar trei medici dar cu experienta. Pana la urma nu conteaza unde faci fiv se intampla ce vrea Dumnezeu.
Bafta inca o data.

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Cosiana » Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:52 am

Lucy, imi pare rau pentru nereusitele tale, indraznesc sa spun ca stiu ce simti, daaaaar, vine si vremea noastra, a aspirantelor care devin mamici. Cu incredere si speranta mergem mai departe, si poate de data asta va fi sa fie ;) .

Bafta multa!
Eu 39, el 36, el diagnosticat cu OATS severa in 2013.
FIV 1 - nereusit, Columna Bucuresti, au fost transferati 2 blasto, calitate A;
FIV 2 - ne pregatim sa mergem la ACIBADEM Istanbul la inceputul lunii mai - REUSIT;
Aprilie 2016, AMH : 4,41
ET 16.05.2016: 3 embrioni de z3, calitate 1;
BetaHCG 26.05.2016 z10 de la ET este 81.33;BetaHCG 28.05.2016 z12 de la ET este 123.BetaHCG 30.05.2016 z14 de la ET este 172.72; BetaHCG 01.06.2016 z16 de la ET este 355.59; BetaHCG 03.06.2016 z18 de la ET este 819.33;
SOE 6 sapt, avort medicamentos
FIV 3 Szeged oct-noe 2016 -o experienta groaznica, dr Zadori, neprofesionalism total; am ovulat inainte de punctie;
FIV 4 VIENA feb- martie 2017 - REUSIT [premom]; fericita mamica de Ema Maria Olivia; sotul a facut TESE; clexane toata sarcina
FIV 5 VIENA/Tulln ian 2019 - 11 ovo, 8 mature, 2 fertilizate, 2 blasto, z5, unul mai slab, unul mai bun, transferati amandoi in 28 ian, crunta asteptare; sotul a facut TESE - NEREUSIT

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Post by carmen 10 » Tue May 03, 2016 3:35 pm

Draga Lucy si eu sunt tot in Germania,numai ca eu sunt mai la sud.La mine este greu cu limba si cum sti si tu cu medicii ca sunt mai multi.Aici la mine sunt 5 dar din toti 5 in ultimul timp stai de vb numai cu un asistent.Eu as fi schimbat dar stii si tu cum e aici.Si eu am facut 4 luni de stimulari apoi 3 inseminari dar degeaba.Luna asta trec si eu la fiv ca nu mai pot.De 2 ani aproape merg la aceasta clinica si inca de 2 ani astept minunea.Eu am mai avut 2 sarcini in urma cu 3 ani dar de atunci parca sa intors lumea.Iti doresc ca de altfel si mie sa ti se inplineasca visul.Merti si tu dupa atatea incercari.Te pup si sper sa mai vb pe aici poate si telefonic daca se poate.Daca ai adresa de mail ...

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Ema_Dumitru » Wed May 04, 2016 1:06 pm

Buna,
Ieri am incheiat primul ciclu FIV cu un beta de 1,2...Pana la acest rezultat toate au mers bine, din 8 ovocite am avut 5 embrioni buni si 2 cu dezvoltare mai lenta. Am transferat in 22 aprilie 2 embrioni de ziua 4, calitate buna iar ceilalti 5 au fost congelati in ziua urmatoare. Nu ma gandeam ca vor fi probleme de implantare si totusi...
Tragem aer in piept, ne mobilizam si mergem mai departe.
Daca va pot ajuta cu info despre clinica, preturi, cazare, etc., va stau la dispozitie.
33 de ani eu, 31 de ani el, incercam din 2011. In 2012 incepem vizitele pe la medici si investigatiile medicale.
2012 - normospermie, analize hormonale ok, histerosonografie cu rezultat trompe permeabile;
2013 - polip endocavitar, TPC negativ, histeroscopie excizie polipi;
2014 - ianuarie, februarie, martie - IUI nereusite;
2015 - in luna mai laparoscopie, teratozoospermie severa - el, tratament, imbunatatire spermograma
2015 - octombrie, noiembrie + 2016 februarie- IUI nereusite
2016 - aprilie FIV 1 Anadolu Turcia - nereusit , 2 embrioni calitate buna transferati in ziua 4.
Avem 5 embrioni congelati, ne pregatim pentru FET...

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by carmen 10 » Wed May 04, 2016 2:55 pm

Buna Ema imi pare rau pt nereusita ta.Ai avut destul de multe ovocite dar totusi nu sa intamplat nimic.Tu ce amh ai?iti doresc din suflket sa ti se inplineasca visul.Cand faci urmatorul transfer?

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Re: FIV abroad

Post by Ema_Dumitru » Wed May 04, 2016 6:13 pm

carmen 10 wrote:Buna Ema imi pare rau pt nereusita ta.Ai avut destul de multe ovocite dar totusi nu sa intamplat nimic.Tu ce amh ai?iti doresc din suflket sa ti se inplineasca visul.Cand faci urmatorul transfer?
Buna, am AMH 4,78. Probabil voi merge in iulie pentru ca trebuie sa fac o luna inainte tratament cu anticonceptionale, urmat de ecografie si daca totul e in regula incep tratamentul pentru transfer. De ce o sa iau anticonceptionale...n-am idee.
Ca fapt, embrionii au fost obtinuti prin ICSI si mi-au spus ca s-a practicat si hatching asistat (pe care ei il fac implicit). Ce s-a intamplat dupa transfer, nu avem de unde sa stim. II dam inainte...
33 de ani eu, 31 de ani el, incercam din 2011. In 2012 incepem vizitele pe la medici si investigatiile medicale.
2012 - normospermie, analize hormonale ok, histerosonografie cu rezultat trompe permeabile;
2013 - polip endocavitar, TPC negativ, histeroscopie excizie polipi;
2014 - ianuarie, februarie, martie - IUI nereusite;
2015 - in luna mai laparoscopie, teratozoospermie severa - el, tratament, imbunatatire spermograma
2015 - octombrie, noiembrie + 2016 februarie- IUI nereusite
2016 - aprilie FIV 1 Anadolu Turcia - nereusit , 2 embrioni calitate buna transferati in ziua 4.
Avem 5 embrioni congelati, ne pregatim pentru FET...

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Post by SOS Infertilitatea » Thu May 05, 2016 1:21 pm

WHEN reports surfaced today that 49-year-old singer Janet Jackson, who will turn 50 on May 16, is pregnant with her first child, many fertility experts felt a familiar sense of frustration.

“When Janet Jackson says ‘We decided to focus on our family’ and two months later she’s pregnant, it makes it look like that’s all you need to do at age 49. It’s not helpful for women who are struggling to conceive on their own,” said IVF specialist and fertility expert Dr Devora Lieberman, from Sydney’s Genea clinic.

[...]

“The only thing that works in women over 45 is an egg donor” , Prof. Illingworth said. “The younger the egg donor, the better.”

President of the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, Dr Steve Robson, says older women struggling to fall pregnant need to be reassured that natural pregnancies over the age of 44 are “almost impossible”.

“Every pregnancy I’ve seen in women over 45 has been through a donated egg,” he said.

[...]

Kelly Preston and Geena Davis both had children at 48. Halle Berry gave birth at 46 and David Bowie’s wife Iman fell pregnant with the couple’s son at age 45.

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something about that,
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I AM SOMEBODY.

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Post by SOS Infertilitatea » Thu May 12, 2016 2:23 am

Baby selected with pioneering IVF screening born in UK

The first baby born in the UK using a pioneering fertility screening treatment that could help IVF treatment be more effective is now a healthy four-month-old boy.



The first baby born in the UK using a pioneering fertility screening treatment that could help IVF treatment be more effective is now a healthy four-month-old boy.

Biagio Russo was born to Ewa Wybacz, 36, and Sergio Russo, 42, after a course of IVF which used "next-generation sequencing".

The process allows doctors to easily and cheaply choose the embryos which have the strongest chance of growing into healthy babies and has "huge potential" for improving fertility treatments, Professor Dagan Wells told The Times.

New mother Ms Wybacz was told she would not be able to have children after a childhood bout of appendicitis.

She was helped by the new treatment which can boost the chance of pregnancy for women in their mid-30s to almost 80%.

About half of the embryos produced in IVF have the wrong number of chromosomes, which, even if they do result in a pregnancy, can lead to complications,

Until the introduction of this sequencing which rapidly counts chromosomes, the only way of checking was for doctors to manually count and identify problems.

But the process is expensive and as a result is only taken up by one in 20 women.

The new way of counting could now be introduced on the NHS.

Prof Wells introduced the process to Britain after the first "next generation" baby was born in America three years ago.

"New genetic tests have huge potential for improving fertility treatments," he said.

"Our aim is to bring these tests within reach of all patients undergoing IVF, not only the wealthy."



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Post by monica.m » Mon May 16, 2016 4:12 pm

buna ziua tuturor!!as dori sa-mi spuneti daca a fost cineva in cehia la clinicile care fac fiv cu ovocite donate.am citit despre praga si zelin si v-as intreba mai multe.multumesc si mult succes tuturor!
eu:40
el:47
sterilitate secundara investigata ,analize ok la ambii, trompe, uter ok.
fiv1 reusit la kaali debrecen
transferat 3 embrioni z3-12,10,5 celule
beta hcg z11 post ET 102 ,beta2 300,1 z14 post ET.
SOE 5 sapt.Mergem mai departe.
Fiv 2 esuat.Mai incercam

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Post by lucia_bk » Mon May 16, 2016 4:39 pm

Hurculeacclaudia wrote:Buna fetelor sunt noua pe forum si a-și dori sa va adresez o întrebare ,știe cineva traducătoare la Kaali Budapesta am o programare la dr Kovacs si nu găsesc pe nimeni care sa îmi traducă . Va rog!!!
buna, si eu sunt fosta pacineta a lui..daca sti putin engleza te vei descurca....daca vb cu el pe mail si crezi ca u intelegi abia atunci intreaba de cineva care sa iti traduca, in rest primeste inclusiv interpretarea analizelor in romaneste..sunt in clinica 3 asistente romance asa ca in cel mai rau caz vb sa iti audca una din ele..
Gynatal-Dorneanu
IA-12.2014 -NEREUSIT
IA-01.2015 -NEREUSIT

Kaali Budapesta-dr. Peter Kovacs
IA-05.2015-REUSIT sarcina oprita in evolutie
IA-08.2015-NEREUSIT
IA-10.2016 REUSIT sarcina oprita in evolutie
Diagnostic profil genetic:
MTHFR mutatia C677T Heterozigot
MTHFR mutatia A1298C Heterozigot

FIV-03.2016-reusit
12.06-18w suntem baietel [baietel]

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Post by SOS Infertilitatea » Tue May 17, 2016 8:02 am

Egg donation: The mother of all gifts

IT was Easter, and Jayne Matthews was talking with her mother Marilyn about her own fading hopes of becoming a mother.

Like many of us, Matthews had believed she would have a baby when the time was right.

Fate had other ideas.

As is often the case for women whose fertility journey turns out nothing like they had imagined, just about everything that could go wrong for the maternal dreams of this bubbly Adelaide-born Melburnian did.

First came breast cancer, diagnosed at 34, in 2007. Two years later came a second bout of the same cancer — not a secondary, thankfully, but a return near the original site — the arduous treatment and a double mastectomy, which succeeded in knocking off the cancerous cells.

But then her relationship ended. The couple, who Matthews felt had arrived at the point where “this time we were going to get married or start to think about having children”, had started the formal IVF process when the relationship collapsed.

Instead, as Matthews was hitting 40, an age at which fertility in most women is seriously compromised, chemotherapy or not, she was single and had gone through chemo-induced menopause.

“I guess for me, I don’t want to dwell on that,” she says. “But that’s why I wasted seven (fertile) years, thinking he was going to be the one I would use my own eggs with no matter how complex it was going to be.”

Still optimistic and hoping her fertility specialist, Associate Professor Kate Stern of Melbourne IVF, could help her body make fresh eggs to give her an even better chance of getting pregnant than the 10 she had frozen before chemo, Matthews started considering donor sperm options.

Again, fate failed to smile, and attempts to stimulate fresh eggs with hormones failed.

On the upside, in 2014, loved friend and former flatmate Marc Grantham provided donor sperm and once her eggs were thawed, two viable embryos were created. To Matthews’ joy, one of them took.

Sadly, at about seven weeks, Stern warned Matthews the foetus had “a very faint heartbeat”.

“I miscarried on the way home in the car,” she says.

As if she had not gone through enough, Matthews lost the pregnancy not long before another crisis many of us dread; the loss of her father, Alan, who died in her arms of a massive heart attack during a road trip in the Northern Territory.

Matthews, now 43, says plainly, “That time was pretty terrible.”

Yet if you the met the Telstra program manager, you would most likely have no clue of this tragic and challenging series of events. Her megawatt smile and buzzy personality make you feel energised and happy in her presence.

Perhaps this is because the woman offering you a homemade pecan and walnut muffin finally got what many may consider her own little miracle and ray of light.

As we chat about events leading up to his arrival, golden-haired Grayson, Matthews’ 10-month-old “super-chilled” baby boy, is burbling in his cot, resisting his afternoon sleep.

He is snug in his cheery nursery, hearing his mother’s voice as she relates one of the happier endings you could hear. And it all came down to a text his mum received out of the blue that fateful Easter as she chatted to her own mother.

Her joy at the turn her story took with those few lines has been so great “it’s hard to put into words”; it was a “monumentally lifesaving gesture”.

Former top swimmer Melissa Russell thinks of her cousin Matthews as “ultimately like my big sister”. She lived with her after her swimming days ended and they grew so close it made perfect sense to offer Matthews a gift that would produce a new life and fill another with happiness.

“Not long after I left (Melbourne to return to her hometown of Adelaide), Jayne got breast cancer for the first time. It was quite difficult not being there through that with her,” says Russell, 31.

“I knew after remission that she was starting with IVF, around the time I got married in 2012, and she wasn’t having a lot of luck.”

It occurred to Russell she had the power to help.

“I remember saying to my husband, ‘After we try to have a baby, I’d be open to donating eggs to Jayne’ — she’d never asked, it was something for down the track.

“Then after I had my daughter Indy (now 3), I kept getting updates and when Jayne let people know her eggs weren’t working I remember reading her email while I was with my husband and I said, ‘What would you think about us giving her my eggs?’ ”

While some couples need to give months of consideration to such an extraordinary gesture, the straightforward reply from Russell’s husband was, “As long as it doesn’t affect us time-wise, because you’re pretty busy at work.”

The couple discussed it further that Easter weekend before Russell sent the text that changed Matthews’ life.

“I can’t remember the exact words but it was something like, ‘It being Easter, I’d like to offer you some of my eggs for IVF,’ ” Russell says. “She (Matthews) didn’t reply straight away, she called me about an hour later and said, ‘I haven’t stopped crying (since I got the text), but there’s so much involved I don’t want you to feel locked in, talk about it more over the weekend and we can talk then.’ ”

Egg donation is a process carefully managed by IVF clinics but is increasingly common, with 6.5 per cent of all fresh egg-stimulation and collection cycles in Victoria done for egg donation.

For donors, the process involves at least two counselling sessions to talk about the implications of donating eggs. They must provide informed consent during these sessions and are required to attend a medical appointment with a Melbourne IVF fertility specialist to discuss their suitability as a donor before they can start treatment to stimulate eggs.

Melbourne IVF head counsellor Marianne Tome says the main thing counsellors want to go through with donors and recipients is the question of how to manage the relationship between the future baby, the donor and recipient, because they have a relationship for life “which is in the best interests of the child”.

“With donors, we want to get an understanding of what their reason for donating is. Often these
are people who know each other — sisters, friends, cousins — usually they will have had children of their own,” Tome says.

“Then we need to look at and talk about their own experiences of parenting and what it might be
like to have a child genetically theirs but not socially theirs — the ability to let go and let the recipient parent as they want. They (donors) need to accept ‘this is a gift I’m giving and it doesn’t give me rights to parenting responsibilities’.”

Counselling sessions with recipients and donors outline what sort of things the donor would and would not have a say in when it comes to the child.

“We always bring the child ‘into the room’ when we’re getting (donors and recipients) to discuss their future relationship expectations and the relationships with half-siblings,” Tome says. “Sometimes, for example, something men find difficult is their wife and children will be connected to another child in another family and they’re not part of that.”

Tome’s counselling staff see donors twice and recipients twice individually and then see them together. She says most donors continue with the process, even after talking through potentially tricky issues.

Counsellors are careful to ensure no party has been in any way coerced into giving eggs or sperm. She says the success of pre-donation counselling can, in part, be seen in the fact many recipients come back to use embryos created by the same donor, with their blessing.

Russell says nothing about the process proved a challenge for her, apart from some temporary bloating, and she felt extremely happy to be giving Matthews something she wanted so dearly.

“I was asked things like, ‘What if she has a boy, and it turns out you can never have a boy, how would you feel about that? Do you think you might wish you had that child, not the person carrying him? All those sorts of things,” Russell says.

“I never saw any issues and I knew I was never going to have any issues. I thought ultimately I would be happy as long as Jayne got the chance to be a parent. That’s the only reason I did it.”

Matthews says because of Russell’s age and their closeness, she always thought Russell was “the
obvious choice” of egg donor, but “I would never have asked her” because it was potentially too much to ask of someone.

Russell adds: “I thought if there’s one person in my life I’d do this for, it’s Jayne. I don’t know anyone else strong enough to do (what Jayne did) … I don’t think anyone I know was concerned about it at all; I don’t know anyone more generous and more giving than Jayne. After everything she’s been through with her cancer, she still volunteers in soup kitchens and just gives her time to everyone.

“This is the biggest thing Jayne wanted to do in her life, over everything else, and being able to be a part of that was fantastic. For something that has had such a big impact on someone, I’m more than happy to have gone through a little bit of discomfort to help her.”

Grantham, who provided donor sperm, was also carefully prepared for the process.

Russell’s parents enjoy seeing plenty of Grayson when Matthews takes him to Adelaide, as do Grantham’s parents, who are also based there.

Russell says she has been slightly surprised that when she says she was an egg donor people often ask, “Do you feel weird about it?” But, she notes, many women say they’ve also considered donating eggs but don’t know how to go about it.

As Grayson finally falls asleep, his mother struggles to put into words her joy at his arrival. He was born via caesarean birth (attended by his nana Marilyn).

Matthews’ luck being Matthews’ luck, she endured three miscarriage scares in the first half of her pregnancy, which she was certain each time meant she had lost her baby. This time, though, it was blessedly not the case.

The straight-talking mum is momentarily lost for words when asked how she felt when Grayson was placed on her chest for the first time after his birth.

“Being pregnant weeks after such a traumatic thing as watching my dad (my hero) die saved my life. I’m not sure how I would have dealt with the grief if there wasn’t a distraction like focusing on the baby’s growth milestones and being able to talk about something positive at a time when I was so heartbroken,” she says.

“The moment when he was born was bittersweet in some ways as my dad wasn’t there to share the most incredible thing that has ever happened to me, but for those first few hours I felt a joy I had never experienced before.

“While Melissa’s gift was selfless and beyond measure, she didn’t realise it was going to be such
a monumentally lifesaving gesture.

“I think in the photo I’ve got with us (after the birth), it’s the only time — and it lasted for a while — that you don’t even have to fake smile for a photo. I’m terrible in photos and I just remember looking at that photo and seeing pure joy and happiness.”

She describes her son as “a champion”, really easy and happy, and very popular with his large crew of grandparents and his biological father.

Matthews feels satisfied all parties are happy with their situation. Though some recipients of eggs or sperm worry about the stability of future relationships with donors, she says “neither of them has given me any reason to think it would be any different from pure love”.

“I’m going to do as much as I can to keep up all his relationships (with his extended families),” she says. “And when Grayson is old enough he can continue those as he likes.

“I am very conscious of everyone feeling they’re included, and that their feelings are all acknowledged.”

Matthews’ body has, incredibly, returned to its pre-menopausal cycle since her pregnancy and she would love to have another child.

As for the baby who resulted from that gift of precious eggs, a beaming Matthews says as she scoops him up after his sleep, “He certainly gets a lot of love, that’s for sure.”



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Re: FIV abroad

Post by CarmenPH » Tue May 17, 2016 9:32 am

Buna tuturor,
Saptamana trecuta am avut si eu prima consultatie la Kaali Budapesta, pentru Dana77 si pentru cine este interesat si urmeaza sa mearga, o sa va dau cateva detalii mai jos :

- Clinica nu arata a spital deloc, o cladire inconjurata de verdeata, personalul extrem de politicos, sunt niste profesionisti iti poti da seama din primele minute. Se completeaza o fisa pentru dosar, se copiaza actele si se asteapta. Nu este nevoie de traducator daca intelegi engleza chiar si daca te exprimi mai greu.
- Am avut programare la dr Kovacs P., dar din pacate a fost spitalizat sapt trecuta si ne-a preluat Dr Balla Levente.
Este un medic care a absolvit fac de medicina in romania, deci este vorbitor de lb romana.Il recomand pentru cele care nu se descurca cu engleza sau isi doresc o consultatie cat mai repede ( dr Kovacs este extrem de aglomerat, noi am facut programarea in febr pentru luna mai , este cam mult dar nu aveam detalii despre alt medic de acolo )
Dr Balla este un profesionist, am stat aprox 1 ora si 45 min in total , a fost o consultatie cu echografie. Ne-a raspuns la toate intrebarile si ne-a explicat ce trebuie facut, nu am simtit nici o secunda ca ne trateaza altfel pt ca nu suntem pacientii dansului.
Dupa ce parcurge toate analizele urmeaza niste intrebari despre istoricul fiecaruia, aici cred ca sunt singurele momente in care ar trebui vb in engleza dar va puteti pregati de acasa in engleza raspunsurile ( sunt intrebari legate de alte boli daca exista, de eventuale sarcini sau avorturi, istoricul familial)
- Am avut facute toate analizele cerute de ei ( inclusiv HSG si HS ) si in plus desi nu mi-au cerut am facut profil trombofilic complet si alte teste hematologice pentru mutatii genetice. Totul - valori normale, cu exceptia analizelor hormonale care arata o rezerva ovarina redusa.
- Pentru inceperea procedurii FIV ei nu tin cont atat de mult de valoarea AMH ( exista sanse si la un AMH f f mic) dar tin cont de valoarea FSH - pentru a te incadra trebuie sa fie sub 20 - ideal sub 10. Ei nu iau in considerare valorile hormonilor facute imediat dupa un tratament cu anticonceptionale , considera ca este o valoare fals pozitiva ( eu am avut o val mare initial 34 iar dupa AC a scazut la 7,4 )
- Acum asteptam urm ciclu pt a recolta din nou analizele si pt a vedea care sunt urmatorii pasi.Daca valoarea FSH continua sa fie mare, peste 20-25 nu exista sanse ca ovarele sa raspunda la un tratament de stimulare , asadar nu exista sanse decat cu donare de ovocite, daca valoarea se incadeaza pot incepe tratamentul.
- Am fost cazati in apropierea clinicii, la 7- 10 min de mers cu masina- Hotel Walzer, un hotel cost-calitate ok, pentru cat am platit a fost ok, mic dejun ok, camera curata.
Il recomand celor nu f pretentiosi care vor o cazare f aproape de clinica.

Este un post mai lung dar poate sunt informatii care ajuta , in special pentru cele care urmeaza sa mearga pentru prima consultatie. Pe mine m-a ajutat fiecare post pe care l-am citit in ultimele luni aici pe forum.
Daca aveti intrebari va raspund cu drag.

Multa bafta tuturor !
Dana77 multa bafta !
Eu - 38 ani / El - 35 ani, spermograma valori normale.
Incercam din 2013 fara nici o sarcina pana in prezent.

- Sept 2015 - AMH 0,2 , FSH 34 , ES 220 , in rest toate analizele valori normale.
Dg: Infertilitate prin insuficienta ovariana primara de cauza necunoscuta ( stare de premenopauza) . - nu mi-a dat nici o sansa cu ovocite proprii ci doar cu donare de ovocite. Tratament: 3 luni AC, fara pauza, pentru a pune ovarele in repaus .
- Ian 2016- AMH 0,78 , FSH 7,4 ,ES 64, toate analizele valori normale inclusiv profil trombofilic complet, dozari de factori hemofilici.
- Febr 2016 - am inceput discutiile pe mail cu dr Kovacs Peter - Kaali Budapesta.
- Mai 2016 - prima consultatie - Dr Kovacs Peter. - AMH - 0.27 , FSH - 10 , ES- 64 , LH- 7.
- Iunie 2016- 18 iunie am inceput AC , ne pregatim pentru FIV
- Iulie 2016 - FIV 1- protocol scurt cu Gonaptyl 1f , Menopur 4 f, Cetrotide , Ovitrelle 2 f.
2 foliculi - 3 ovocite - 2 embrioni B2 si C3 de 8 si 6 celule transferati in ziua a -3- a.
- August 2016 - Beta HCG <1.2
- Noiembrie 2016 - FIV 2 - Kaali Budapesta : Gonapetyl, Menopur 4 f, Ovitrelle - 1 folicul , 1 ovocit. Un embrion C3 transferat in ziua a2a. Beta HCG negativ.

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